I am tired of useless discussions. Tired of “we are talking about servers and desktop, not toys” which needs to happen in EVERY arm64 discussion sooner or later. It was that way in “Qt: GL or GLES on arm64” thread on debian-arm ML or recently on #debian-boot when I tried to find out how to get graphical installer working on arm64.

There was a mistake done at some point probably. Maybe aarch64 should start with A72 cores, GICv3 and multicore server chips. And mobile market get fast v7 cores at same time. To make a clean split.

On arm64 Fedora has graphical installer for last few releases. Took a while to debug X11 and kernel to find out why it requires config file when it should not. We wrote some patches (better than ones in linked post) and got them merged. I can take Mustang, put graphics card and install operating system using keyboard, mouse and monitor. Just like it is on boring computers.

Debian? Same machine, same config — you need to grab serial cable and second computer. Because it is Arm system so it is supposed to be one of those small toy boards people give to kids to play with, right?

Sure, I could sit and discuss with people but it does not work. You always get someone with ‘I use R/Pi zero as a desktop’ (or other insane setup) and then thread dies as every normal person leaves.

So sorry, but I do not plan to spent any time on improving operating system installers. Never mind which distribution it will be.

Where and when mistake was made?
            

3 thoughts on “Where and when mistake was made?

  • 28th November 2018 at 17:38
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    I’m so sorry you’ve had to go through this. It appears that over the past few weeks (at least), random people have found interesting to post negative comments or mislead others into trying their own approach for very different problems, instead of being welcoming, positive, and on-topic.

    Unfortunately I haven’t been able to dedicate much time to fighting this, and when one goes quiet, another one pops up… :/

    As mentioned earlier though, feedback through the debian-boot@ mailing list might lead to fewer dismissive comments and to a more constructive discussion.

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  • 28th November 2018 at 21:55
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    Wrote about that in previous post. But will it change situation?

    I suppose that one day we will see 60% of arm64 chips in mobile market, 30% in cloud and rest in toy boards.

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